Relato integral dos debates

Segunda-feira, 12 de Setembro de 2022 - Estrasburgo

17. Eficiência Energética (reformulação) (debate)

  Der Präsident. – Als nächster Punkt der Tagesordnung folgt die Aussprache über den Bericht von Niels Fuglsang im Namen des Ausschusses für Industrie, Forschung und Energie über den Vorschlag für eine Richtlinie des Europäischen Parlaments und des Rates zur Energieeffizienz (Neufassung) (COM(2021)0558 – C9-0330/2021 – 2021/0203(COD)) (A9-0221/2022).

  Niels Fuglsang, rapporteur. – Mr President, Europe’s energy system is under severe pressure. We have to go back to the 1970s to find a comparison to what is happening right now. The combination of Putin’s chokehold on gas supplies, the most severe drought on record, and the failing of the conventional power fleet are creating the conditions for a perfect storm. Businesses, households, governments – they are all being hit.

What can we do about it? Well, for years, some of us have been saying that the safest, cleanest and cheapest energy is that which you don’t use. Today, this is truer than ever, but Europe has been sleeping at the wheel. Yes, there have been EU—wide energy—saving goals for the past decade, but they have been voluntary and with mixed results at best. Investment in energy efficiency increased, but energy use fell by only 4% between 2010 and 2019. Without realising, this continent has been cruising on autopilot into deeper and deeper dependency on imported energy.

Now we have the crisis, and governments are acting. They are increasing efforts to ramp up renewables and energy efficiency. At a dramatic speed, they’re rolling out urgent energy—saving plans. These policies are needed. These policies can address the immediate challenges of price spikes and inflation and import dependency.

But what about the longer term? What will happen next? Well, that is up to us, my friends. We have the opportunity now to set a straight way out of energy dependency, creating a solid way of getting rid of Putin’s natural gas well before 2030, because this is what an ambitious energy efficiency directive can deliver. I believe that we have such an agreement on the table this week that we can adopt: a directive setting a 40% target for energy efficiency in 2030 compared to the 2017 baseline scenario, a target which will be binding for both the EU as a whole and for the individual Member States.

To deliver on these ambitious targets, the negotiating team have strengthened the directive in many aspects. Let me outline some of the core issues. We have yearly energy savings on 2%, raising the energy—savings obligation from the Commission’s 1.5% proposal. We have two milestones: in 2025 and 2027, measuring our way towards 2030, so we can see if we are on track and if we’re not, we’d better act on it. We have agreed on a 3% renovation rate for public buildings. We have an agreement to prioritise the people who suffer from energy poverty, as they are the ones that need energy—efficiency measures the most because they have the hardest economic situation. We’ve strengthened the ‘energy efficiency first’ principle, creating more comprehensive governance, and we have agreed that all municipalities with more than 35 000 inhabitants need to make heating and cooling plans to get the most efficient solutions. Furthermore, we have agreed on energy—efficiency schemes for datacentres, making sure that they don’t waste the heat but use it to warm up buildings.

Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have an ambitious text on the table. I look forward to the debate here tonight. I look forward to hearing from the negotiating team that I have negotiated with because they are the ones that are making the difference.

  Kadri Simson, Member of the Commission. – Mr President, the proposal for the recast of the Energy Efficiency Directive is of the utmost importance to our energy system for sustainability, affordability and energy security. We are just over 200 days since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Apart from the human tragedy that Putin has caused, the war has triggered volatility, and uncertainty on our energy markets and the threat of gas disruption this winter is a scenario to be ready for.

At the same time, we have seen images of extreme weather affecting our lives and stressing our energy system, and this keeps repeating over and over again. Both of these developments need a response and action that is even more robust than before. Energy savings are the quickest and cheapest way to address the current energy crisis. This is key, as high energy costs are hitting our vulnerable consumers and businesses most.

Saving energy directly reduces our energy bills and makes our economy more resilient. Energy efficiency means saving on energy prices, investment costs and system costs. But it needs to be done right – e.g. will complement the urgent action we are taking to reduce gas consumption in view of our REPowerEU goals, just like we already see with our ‘Save gas for a safe winter’ plan.

As you know, electricity demand reduction will be the starting point of the emergency intervention that we are currently finalising. Beyond this winter, structural change at the very foundation of how we use energy every day will help end our dependence on Russian fossil fuels faster and protect our economy.

In this way, energy efficiency is a strategic tool to strengthen and safeguard our energy system. Given its importance, I want to thank the rapporteur, Nils Fuglsang, and his colleagues from the ITRE Committee for the important progress made on the proposal. You have shown a true commitment to pushing for the highest ambition in many of the provisions to effectively alleviate energy poverty.

On the way forward, I would stress the importance of a robust and effective EEG, otherwise we risk undermining its impact, in particular when it comes to the provisions on public buildings and innovation and stopping support to fossil fuel technologies. I hope that we can stick to the spirit of the proposal.

The current crisis and the challenging winter ahead will remain a constant reminder of the importance of our joint effort on this proposal, with a collective, constructive mind—set.

  Ville Niinistö, rapporteur for the opinion of the Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Food Safety. – Mr President, it’s very obvious that the cheapest and cleanest energy is the one you do not consume. All the policymakers, if they are serious about ending energy dependence and about lowering the bills for citizens and businesses in Europe, should first and foremost focus on maximising energy efficiency and savings and helping citizens and businesses to cut their energy consumption.

Every additional base percent of improved energy efficiency allows us to cut gas imports by 2.4% and oil imports by 3.5%. So, the compromise text voted on Wednesday is in many respects, and in this regard, an improvement over the Commission’s proposal, which already was on the right path. Parliament should give a very strong mandate to negotiate with the Council and improve the proposal.

We also urge the Commission to stand with Parliament in the negotiations and to embrace a forward—looking and not backward—looking position. We have to make sure that all Member States are on board, that there is enough binding us into the targets and into the milestones. Against the backdrop of the current energy crisis and the climate emergency, energy and increased energy efficiency are key to keeping everyone on board.

  Tom Berendsen, rapporteur voor advies van de Commissie vervoer en toerisme. – Voorzitter, energie-efficiëntie is veel te lang een ondergeschoven kindje geweest in het energiebeleid.

En zelfs nu – nu we zien dat de rekeningen voor huishoudens en bedrijven niet meer te betalen zijn – draaien regeringsleiders nog steeds om elkaar heen zonder te komen tot harde afspraken op het gebied van energiebesparing. En dit terwijl efficiënter omgaan met energie echt een vanzelfsprekende keuze is:

voor de energierekeningen van huishoudens en bedrijven, want ieder kWh dat we niet gebruiken is goedkoop,

voor het verminderen van onze afhankelijkheid van Rusland, want iedere euro die we besparen komt niet in de oorlogskas van Poetin terecht, en

voor het klimaat, want de schoonste energie – zoals heel veel van mijn collega's in dit debat zullen zeggen – is de energie die we niet hoeven op te wekken.

Daarom denk ik dat de wens van het Europees Parlement om de energie-efficiëntiedoelstelling te verhogen, goed is. Ik hoop dat de Raad zich daar snel bij zal aansluiten.

  Diana Riba i Giner, ponente de opinión de la Comisión de Derechos de las Mujeres e Igualdad de Género. – Señor presidente, la actual crisis energética pone de relieve, una vez más, lo importante que es poner la perspectiva de género en todas y cada una de las políticas públicas, y, en este caso, en las políticas energéticas y de transición ecológica.

Sabemos que las mujeres, y en particular aquellas que experimentan discriminaciones interseccionales, ya sea por motivo de origen, de raza, de religión o de estatus social, tienen mayor probabilidad que los hombres de vivir en la pobreza energética, por lo que es importante que las medidas de mejora de la eficiencia energética, a su vez, ayuden a empoderar y a proteger a los hogares de bajos ingresos y a las personas más vulnerables.

Recordemos: una transición justa e inclusiva hacia una Unión climáticamente neutra solo es posible si tenemos en cuenta el impacto que el cambio climático tiene sobre las desigualdades.

  Pernille Weiss, for PPE-Gruppen. – hr. Formand! Energieffektivisering har længe været kendt som den mest omkostningseffektive måde at reducere CO2 på, så vi når klimamålet til tiden. Nu er det så også blevet erkendt, at energieffektivisering faktisk er et stærkt våben til at slå EU's energiafhængighed af Rusland og andre fjendtlige leverandører ned med. Og hver eneste uge mærker familier og store og små virksomheder i hele EU, at der kan – og skal – spares på energien, så pengene kan slå til i en tid, hvor ikke kun energipriserne raser mod himlen. Energieffektivisering er hermed på en ulykkelig baggrund og med et alt for langt tilløb blevet et uundværligt instrument i alle lande, alle virksomheder og alle familier, og det tager revideringen, vi nu foreslår, alvorligt.

Vi har lavet en bred aftale, og vi har lagt arm de rigtige steder, så vi nu står med høje ambitioner, masser af værktøjer og al den fleksibilitet, det kun er rimeligt at stille til rådighed, når vi samtidigt også siger til landene, at nu gælder nationalt bindende målsætninger, så ikke noget som helst land kan gemme sig bag andre, sådan at nogle af landene skal trække et større læs end de fleste. Det er det bedste ved vores aftale, og det vil jeg gerne, på vegne af i EPP-Gruppen, takke for. Og jeg ser frem til en hurtig og effektiv forhandling med Rådet.

  Mohammed Chahim, namens de S&D-Fractie. – Voorzitter, efficiënter omgaan met onze energie is toch wel een van de belangrijkste manieren om te besparen op energie. Elk kWh dat we niet hoeven te gebruiken, hoeven we immers ook niet op te wekken.

De energie-efficiëntierichtlijn is goed, maar de uitvoering loopt achter. Ik spreek veel met mensen die hun woning willen verduurzamen, maar vaak blijft dit hangen door een gebrek aan geld of kennis en door ingewikkelde subsidiemaatregelen. Alles valt of staat bij de uitvoering door de lidstaten.

Neem barrières weg en maak het makkelijk. Soms is het makkelijker dan je denkt. Neem nou dit ledlampje. Het lijkt op een gloeilamp maar het is een ledlamp. Als we alle lampen in Europa vervangen door leds, dan besparen we 65 miljard euro op onze energierekening. Daarmee besparen we evenveel energie als we nu met 500 kolencentrales opwekken. 500 kolencentrales! En toch krijgt dit niet de aandacht die het verdient.

Er is nog veel winst te behalen, zeker nu de energierekening enorm drukt op de uitgaven van de Europese burgers.

  Nicola Danti, a nome del gruppo Renew. – Signor Presidente, signora Commissaria, onorevoli colleghi, difficile sintetizzare in un minuto il risultato di mesi e mesi di lavoro.

Il testo che approveremo nei prossimi giorni ci consegna ambizione e concretezza, senza cedimenti a ideologie e a manifesti politici. Gestire la transizione vuol dire scegliere obiettivi realizzabili.

Abbiamo allora deciso di aumentare il target di riduzione del nostro consumo energetico al 40 % entro il 2030 rispetto al 2007; spinto per avere contributi nazionali vincolanti, lasciando al contempo la flessibilità agli Stati membri in vista di una maggiore elettrificazione e produzione di idrogeno; assicurato che il settore pubblico abbia effettivamente un ruolo esemplare nell'efficientamento del proprio parco immobiliare, tutelando però il patrimonio culturale delle città; chiesto anche alle imprese energivore di investire nel miglioramento dei processi produttivi grazie a misure di accompagnamento adeguate.

La situazione attuale ci impone di stringere i tempi sapendo che l'energia meno costosa che tutela più l'ambiente e che ci rende meno dipendenti da terzi è quella che non consumiamo.

  Jutta Paulus, im Namen der Verts/ALE-Fraktion. – Herr Präsident, Frau Kommissarin, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen! Seit ich mich mit Energiepolitik beschäftige, und das war zu einer Zeit, da ich meine grauen Haare noch zählen konnte, wird vom schlafenden Riesen Energieeffizienz gesprochen. Es ist jedoch nie gelungen, nationale oder europäische Ziele zu erreichen. Warum? Weil all die schönen Ziele nie verbindlich waren. Weil immer argumentiert wurde, Regierungen, Firmen, Hausbesitzerinnen und Hausbesitzer würden doch von selbst alles tun, um möglichst wenig Energie zu verbrauchen.

Die traurige Wahrheit ist aber: Das stimmt nicht. Und deswegen kämpfen wir Grüne für eine verbindliche und ambitionierte Energieeffizienz-Richtlinie. Ich möchte dem ganzen Verhandlungsteam für einen starken Kompromisstext danken, den wir Grüne vollumfänglich unterstützen werden.

Wir werden diese Woche auch die Erneuerbare-Energien-Richtlinie diskutieren, und viele haben Zweifel geäußert, ob denn ein höheres Ziel für erneuerbare Energien überhaupt erreichbar ist. Ich sage Ihnen heute: Ja, das ist es. Denn wenn wir bei Effizienz jetzt den Turbo einlegen, werden wir viel weniger Gas, Kohle und Öl ersetzen müssen. Wir brauchen viel weniger Windmühlen und Solarparks. Unsere Bürgerinnen und Bürger sparen bares Geld. Wir erreichen unsere Erneuerbaren-Ziele und unsere Klimaziele.

Und Effizienz ist auch der Weg raus aus der fossilen Abhängigkeit. Warum wohl hat Putin in seinen Strategiepapieren Energieeffizienz als Bedrohung für die russische Wirtschaft bezeichnet? Lasst uns ihm zeigen, wie diese Bedrohung aussieht.

Und letzter Punkt: Hier wende ich mich direkt an die Kommission. Bitte stellen Sie sicher, dass Energieeffizienz und nicht nur eine vage Reduzierung der Energienachfrage im Mittelpunkt jeder Maßnahme steht, die Sie zur Bewältigung dieser Krise vorschlagen. Ich fordere, dass Sie die Übergewinne der fossilen Energieunternehmen abschöpfen und in erster Linie in die Energieeffizienz investieren. Denn wir müssen jetzt handeln.

  Isabella Tovaglieri, a nome del gruppo ID. – Signor Presidente, onorevoli colleghi, l'efficienza energetica è fondamentale per ridurre la dipendenza dell'Europa da fornitori non più affidabili, come la Russia. Per essere effettivo, il risparmio energetico nelle abitazioni, nell'industria e nella produzione di energia deve però affiancarsi a target realistici, soprattutto quando si parla di riqualificazione e decarbonizzazione di edifici pubblici e privati.

Se vogliamo veramente che nessuno resti indietro, dobbiamo guardare oltre il mero risparmio energetico e mettere mano a soluzioni pragmatiche che per anni l'ideologia green di quest'Aula ha demonizzato. Puntare tutto sulle rinnovabili senza che queste siano tecnologie ancora mature è stato un grave errore, così come lo è creare dipendenza dalle batterie cinesi che rischiano di distruggere il nostro settore automotive.

Spero che questo dibattito aiuti a rilanciare senza ideologie soluzioni rapide e praticabili per tutelare imprese e famiglie in vista di questo inverno. I nostri cittadini non possono più attendere.

  Grzegorz Tobiszowski, w imieniu grupy ECR. – Panie Przewodniczący! Szanowna Pani Komisarz! Z punktu widzenia polskiego sektora ciepłowniczego zarówno propozycja Komisji, jak również sprawozdanie pana sprawozdawcy nakładają nieproporcjonalnie restrykcyjne wymogi dla systemów ciepłowniczych.

Zaproponowane zmiany kryteriów wysokosprawnej kogeneracji oraz wskaźnik emisyjności produkcji dla tejże kogeneracji oznaczają w praktyce, iż większość instalacji kogeneracyjnych w moim kraju, działających zarówno na gazie, jak i na węglu, utraciłaby status efektywnych systemów, co wiązałoby się z utratą niezbędnego wsparcia na rozbudowę i modernizację. Sektor ciepłowniczy i przemysł wykorzystujący wysokosprawną kogenerację w procesach przemysłowych staną przed ogromnym wyzwaniem zapewnienia niezbędnych dostaw ciepła.

Ponadto galopujące ceny uprawnień do emisji CO2, jak również ceny surowca, gazu i węgla dodatkowo pogarszają sytuację i tworzą możliwość niedostarczenia ciepła do domostw i do przemysłu w moim kraju, w Polsce.

  Sandra Pereira, em nome do Grupo The Left. – Senhor Presidente, não duvidamos do potencial de renovação e de inovação das redes de energia, do parque edificado, dos transportes e demais serviços de utilidade pública, com vista a uma maior eficiência energética.

No entanto, com a definição de metas vinculativas que exigem a uns Estados mais esforços do que a outros, a União Europeia atira para cima dos Estados-Membros a responsabilidade e o esforço financeiro necessário à sua concretização, o que não é justo nem viável.

Defendemos que os fundos mobilizados para promover a eficiência energética fossem excluídos do cálculo da dívida pública e dos défices orçamentais dos Estados-Membros, para que se pudessem fazer os investimentos necessários, mas a nossa proposta não foi acolhida. E defendemos que as políticas de eficiência energética não devem contribuir para uma maior exclusão social e agravamento das condições de vida dos cidadãos, com o aumento dos custos da habitação, da mobilidade ou dos preços da energia.

Consideramos, neste sentido, que o controlo público do setor energético é crucial para o incremento da eficiência energética e para a garantia dos direitos económicos, sociais e ambientais dos povos.

  Hildegard Bentele (PPE). – Herr Präsident, sehr geehrte Frau Kommissarin, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen! Die Energieeffizienz ist das Stiefkind der Energiepolitik. Hier hat sich jahrelang viel zu wenig getan, was sich jetzt in der Energiekrise bitter rächt. Deshalb stimmen auch wir zu, die Ambitionen zu erhöhen und verbindliche Ziele festzulegen. Aber: Wir berücksichtigen die jetzige Ausgangssituation. Die öffentlichen Haushalte sind leer, und auch Unternehmen fehlt nach der Pandemie oft das Geld für Investitionen. Zumindest in Deutschland fehlen Fachkräfte und die Hardware für großflächige Sanierungsmaßnahmen.

Deshalb habe ich mich als Berichterstatterin meiner Fraktion im Umweltausschuss für Klarheit bei den Zielen, aber für Flexibilität und Machbarkeit bei der Umsetzung durch die Mitgliedstaaten eingesetzt. Ich freue mich, dass zumindest die Kolleginnen und Kollegen im glücklicherweise federführenden Industrieausschuss dies genauso gesehen haben und dass es für angepasste und realistische Maßnahmen sowie berechtigte Ausnahmen und Bedingungen – beispielsweise für den sozialen Wohnungsbau – nun eine breite Mehrheit gibt.

Extrem wichtig ist nun, dass wir bei der Überarbeitung der europäischen Gebäuderichtlinie, die Millionen von EU-Bürgern betreffen wird, den gleichen Realismus und Pragmatismus wie bei der Energieeffizienz-Richtlinie walten lassen.

  Tsvetelina Penkova (S&D). – Mr President, the past six months have shown us that energy efficiency is a matter of national security. Every kilowatt—hour we save can reduce our dependency on outside suppliers. Working on the Energy Performance of Buildings Directive, I can assure you that the importance of the use of some of the transitional fuels is crucial for us to be able to achieve the climate goals by 2050.

I appreciate that the rapporteur on the Energy Efficiency Directive, Mr Fuglsang, took a pragmatic and realistic approach, combining the strong goals of energy efficiency and, at the same time, allowing for some of the transitional fuels to be used in the short term. We need a realistic assessment of the situation in order to protect the best interests of our citizens. We should never put the consumers in a situation where they have to choose between heating their houses or buying food.

The Green Deal is more ambitious than ever and more needed than ever now, but we should offer solutions which reduce prices and guarantee energy efficiency in Europe.

  Искра Михайлова (Renew). – Г-н Председател, уважаема г-жо Комисар, задълбочаващата се енергийна криза изисква от Европейския съюз и всички държави членки да удвоят амбициите си в областта на енергийната ефективност. Ние сме изправени пред предизвикателството на европейската енергийна независимост и ключов инструмент за постигане на тази независимост е точно енергийната ефективност.

Искам да подчертая един специален аспект в обновената директива. Това е включването на строителната индустрия в политиката за енергийна ефективност, което позволява промотиране и завишаване използването на енергия от възобновяеми източници в сградния фонд, реновиране на сградния фонд на Европа, широко внедряване и използване на високо енергийноефективни строителни материали и технологии в строителната индустрия. Пред Европейския съюз стоят амбициозните цели, изискващи действия и инвестиции, целящи завишаване на енергийна ефективност на индустриалния сектор, енергийната мрежа и транспорта. Водеща роля в този процес имат публичния сектор и най-вече местните и регионални власти.

  Sylvia Limmer (ID). – Herr Präsident, werte Kollegen! Die Beobachtung, dass in diesem Haus physikalisches Verständnis gegen null tendiert, ist für mich nicht neu. Daher möchte ich mich hier darauf beschränken, was als Energieeffizienz bezeichnet wird – nämlich die Steigerung des Wirkungsgrades bei der Energiewandlung. Und dieser Wirkungsgrad lässt sich eben nicht beliebig steigern, schon gar nicht mit vom technischen Fortschritt abgehobenen Richtlinien. Ginge es hier um Effizienz, würden wir vielleicht über den Primärenergieverbrauch sprechen, sicherlich jedoch nicht über Wasserstoffwirtschaft mit ihren inhärent verheerenden Wirkungsgraden.

Die Richtlinie befiehlt per Gesetz nur die Reduktion des Energieverbrauchs für uns alle – derzeit um 0,8 % jährlich, ab 2024 um 2 % jährlich oder um mindestens 40 % bis 2030, bezogen auf 2007. Ihre Strommangelwirtschaft ist verbunden mit Einschränkung, Schrumpfung der Wirtschaft und Konsumverzicht. Seien Sie bitte so ehrlich und sagen Sie das Ihren Wählern.

  Christian Ehler (PPE). – Herr Präsident, Frau Kommissarin! Gute Gesetzgebung ist nicht nur Ambition, und ich glaube, der EVP war es wichtig, bei den Verhandlungen ein wirklich ehrgeiziges, aber auch realistisches und umsetzbares Gesamtenergieeffizienzziel zu etablieren. Ich glaube, dass die Richtlinie jetzt den Mitgliedstaaten die Möglichkeit lässt, den Verwaltungsaufwand zu minimieren. Ich glaube, dass wir wichtigerweise auch andere Grundsätze wie Kosteneffizienz, Systemeffizienz und Versorgungssicherheit integrieren konnten. Es war sinnlos, die Speicher in die Energieeffizienzrichtlinie einzubauen. Es benötigt den Hochlauf von Elektrifizierung, und ich glaube, wir haben in dieser Richtlinie einfach vieles geradegerückt.

Wichtig ist, dass wir sichergestellt haben, dass die Mitgliedstaaten bei der Anwendung des Grundsatzes der Energieeffizienz den gesamten Lebenszyklus und die absehbaren Entwicklungen, die Systeme und Kosteneffizienz und die Versorgungssicherheit berücksichtigt haben. Mit dem Kompromiss zu einer verpflichtenden 3—%—Sanierungsquote für öffentliche Gebäude sind wir nicht ganz glücklich, da wir damit der Gebäuderichtlinie vorgreifen. Wir dürfen hier den aktuellen Kostendruck auf die Kommunen nicht aus den Augen verlieren. Aber wir unterstützen diesen ambitionierten Schritt.

  Maria Grapini (S&D). – Domnule președinte, doamnă comisară, stimați colegi, nu cred că există cineva care să nu dorească eficientizarea energetică. Problema este că trebuie să ne gândim la contextul în care facem acest lucru. Când am început noi dezbaterea despre eficientizarea energetică, erau cu totul alte condiții.

Eu vin dintr-o țară comunistă, doamnă comisară. Eu am trăit în frig, am trăit fără lumină, mi-am făcut temele pe întuneric. Nu vreau ca copiii și nepoții mei să pățească același lucru. Să știți că cetățenii din România, din țara mea, sunt foarte îngrijorați, pentru că informațiile sunt aiuritoare. „Să consumați energie și să vă limitați la cât puteți plăti”.

Nu putem „Patul lui Procust”, doamnă comisară. Țările sunt dezvoltate diferit, nu putem să avem aceiași indicatori, aceleași pretenții, la salarii diferite. Cred aici că trebuie să flexibilizați foarte mult, să sprijiniți statele membre care sunt, economic, mai puțin dezvoltate, să poată să susțină consumatorii vulnerabili, dar și industria și întreprinderile mici și mijlocii și microîntreprinderile.

Eu am fost raportoare din partea Comisiei TRAN, am încercat să depun câteva amendamente. Sunt inginer de profesie și eu cred că trebuie să ne gândim la impact. De aceea, vă rog, doamnă comisară, și rog și colegii, să ajungem la o înțelegere, încât această economisire a energiei să nu ducă la viață nedemnă pentru cetățenii noștri.

(Vorbitoarea a fost de acord să răspundă unei intervenții de tip „cartonaș albastru”)

  Jutta Paulus (Verts/ALE), blue-card speech. – Mr President, yes, Madam Grapini, I closely listened to you because I was a shadow on the directive and, to me, it’s also very, very important that all Member States are looked at according to their situation, to their socio-economic situation, to the gains which they have already made. But, exactly this is laid down in the formula in the annex where – what you have talked about, the BIP, the situation of the people – is recognised.

So, of course Romania will not have the same goals as my home country, Germany. And we were making sure that this formula stays safe and that Member States cannot voluntarily change it in order to make it easier for Romania.

  Maria Grapini (S&D), răspuns la intervenția de tip „cartonaș albastru”. – Domnule președinte, nu a fost o întrebare, a fost o explicație. Eu sper că la aplicare, sigur, este și responsabilitatea statelor membre, dar eu sper că la aplicare să fie absolut pragmatic și cu calculul impactului, pentru că nu putem să nenorocim o generație acum în statele care nu pot să respecte aceste ținte. În țara mea nu se va putea, asta este foarte clar.

  Ladislav Ilčić (ECR). – Poštovani predsjedavajući, poštovani kolege, u trenucima kada naši građani počinju dobivati ogromne račune za energiju, kada europsko gospodarstvo trpi zbog tih visokih cijena, kada mnoge europske zemlje i dalje pune rusku blagajnu kupujući njihov plin ili bi bar to htjeli, dakle, u ovim trenucima smanjenje stakleničkih plinova nije i ne smije biti prvi cilj, već sigurna opskrba Europe energijom.

Ta se dva cilja donekle poklapaju, ali su u velikoj mjeri i različiti. Zaista ne možemo u prvi plan stavljati tridesetogodišnje ekološke ciljeve dok građani i vlasnici tvrtki nastoje preživjeti tridesetodnevno razdoblje i platiti mjesečne račune.

Struja ne treba biti tako skupa. Cijena struje ne smije više biti vezana za cijenu plina jer mnogi koji proizvode struju iz drugih izvora sad bilježe ogromne profite.

Danas nam treba realan pristup energetici i zato zaboravite, bar nakratko, svoj zeleni PR i poslušajte građane i njihove potrebe!

  Bert-Jan Ruissen (ECR). – Voorzitter, beste collega’s, ieder weldenkend mens die naar zijn energierekening kijkt, snapt het belang van bijvoorbeeld woningisolatie. Daar hebben we geen vanachter een bureau bedachte doelstellingen voor nodig.

In het debat over energiebesparing mis ik echter wel iets zeer wezenlijks, namelijk de oproep tot soberheid. Want met onze westerse levensstijl zijn we enorme energieslurpers geworden. De honger naar een nóg groter huis, een nóg grotere auto en een nóg luxere vakantie is nagenoeg niet te stillen.

Bij Thomas a Kempis, een belangrijk middeleeuws theoloog, las ik: “Een trots en hebzuchtig mens vindt nooit rust, maar wie eenvoudig en bescheiden is, zal de innerlijke vrede rijkelijk ten deel vallen.”

Voorzitter, we moeten dus breder kijken, niet alleen naar technische maatregelen, maar ook naar onze manier van leven. Dat niet alleen om energie te besparen, maar ook voor innerlijke vrede en vrede met God. U begrijpt: dit is vooral een oproep aan de welgestelden en zeker niet aan degenen die in de rij staan bij de voedselbank.

Spontane Wortmeldungen

  Радан Кънев (PPE). – Г-н Председател, уважаеми колеги, разбира се, че както практически всички, които се изказаха в днешния дебат, категорично подкрепям високата амбиция в сферата на енергийната ефективност.

Тя има тази особеност, че едновременно постига екологичните ни цели, икономическите, енергийните, геополитическите ни цели с едни и същи мерки. Ние надали имаме друга толкова универсална политика. Преди всичко има огромен ефект върху социалните ни цели и като Съюз, и като държава, защото няма съмнение, че хората с ниски доходи са тези, които страдат най-много от високите енергийни сметки.

Но въпреки това не мога да спестя една ключова критика към проекта на Комисията, който ни е предложен, и върху който работим, подготвен преди инфлационната криза. И то е, че той не отчита огромната естествена пазарна мотивация, която всеки бизнес и всяко домакинство има в настоящия момент да премине към по-ефективно потребление или производство. Ние в същност нямаме нужда от допълнителни бюрократични задължения и регулации. Това, от което имаме нужда са мъдри и приложени финансови инструменти, нищо повече.

  Mick Wallace (The Left). – Mr President, the text is a good one. It further increases the energy-efficiency targets and, most importantly, makes the national energy-efficiency targets legally binding for the first time. It increases the targets for public bodies to reduce their energy consumption and also increases the yearly renovation requirements for public bodies.

The new detail in Article 11 on data centres is very welcome. It introduces possible sustainability criteria for data centres and a possible assessment by the Commission of the feasibility of a transition towards net-zero data centres. In Ireland, we have a huge problem with data centres. It’s estimated that by 2030 the demand from data centres could account for up to 36% of Ireland’s electricity demand, driven by the government’s disastrous data-centres enterprise strategy. However, any future sustainability criteria for data centres must insist that data centres are powered directly by onsite renewable-energy generation or at least new offsite renewable generation.

  Μαρία Σπυράκη (PPE). – Κύριε Πρόεδρε, κυρία Επίτροπε, η κλιματική κρίση δεν ανεστάλη επειδή ο Πούτιν εισέβαλε στην Ουκρανία. Ούτε η κλιματική αλλαγή σταμάτησε επειδή ο Πούτιν χρησιμοποιεί σαν όπλο την ενέργεια και στην πραγματικότητα δημιουργεί τεχνητή έλλειψη στην ευρωπαϊκή αγορά, πιέζοντας τα νοικοκυριά μας και τις επιχειρήσεις μας.

Η σημερινή συζήτηση αποδεικνύει ότι πρέπει να επιταχύνουμε ειδικά όσον αφορά την ενεργειακή αποδοτικότητα των κτιρίων και αυτό είναι κάτι που πρέπει να γίνει κατεπειγόντως. Και είναι πολύ σημαντικό το ότι έχουμε δεσμευτικούς στόχους, ειδικά για τα δημόσια κτίρια. Τα δημόσια κτίρια αποτελούν έναν τομέα στον οποίο γίνεται κατασπατάληση ενέργειας και τα κράτη μέλη καλούνται τώρα με μεγαλύτερες ταχύτητες να προχωρήσουν· και πρέπει να προχωρήσουν.

Η Ελλάδα διαθέτει ήδη 640 εκατομμύρια ευρώ σε αυτή την κατεύθυνση· το 6% του Ταμείου Ανάκαμψης και Ανθεκτικότητας στην κατεύθυνση της αναβάθμισης των κτιρίων. Κυκλικά υλικά, περισσότερη ενέργεια στην κατεύθυνση της ενσωματωμένης ενέργειας από τα κτίρια και —κυρίως— αυτό που έχει σημασία: χώροι, όπως είναι τα κέντρα διαχείρισης δεδομένων, που θα μπορούν να επιστρέφουν την ενέργεια αυτή στους πολίτες.

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  Kadri Simson, Member of the Commission. – Mr President, I have listened carefully to all the views and the concerns you shared. The Commission shares your views on the decisive role of energy efficiency in accelerating our transition to climate neutrality and in phasing out Russian fossil fuels so that our security of supply is guaranteed and prices are kept under control.

Indeed, many challenges lie ahead, and this winter will not be the end of them. We need a European solution that will last, based on solidarity and joint effort. The vote for the ambitious report on the Energy Efficiency Directive recast proposal will be part of this solution. Indeed, the recast Energy Efficiency Directive will set the framework for actions which are urgently needed.

The proposed amendments on energy efficiency targets, as well as the concrete measures to achieve them, appear to me as a good start for the next steps in the negotiations.

Let me finish by thanking you again for your work on such an important proposal. I do hope that we can see the adoption of the recast EED as a strong EU contribution to support our economy and society as swiftly as possible. Having seen the constructive discussions in Parliament, and also in the Council, I am very much looking forward to finalising the process.

  Niels Fuglsang, rapporteur. – Mr President, thank you very much for this debate. I think it has been extremely positive, really. I think the debate shows that there’s a great consensus amongst the political groups that we need more ambition on energy efficiency. And I hope and I also think that it will result in support for the text which is on the table, which has some broad appeal, I think.

I want to thank, in particular, Pernille Weiss from the EPP, Nicola Danti from the Renew Group, and not least, Jutta Paulus from the Greens. They are the people that also backed this agreement, along with me, and I think that if we stick together like we’ve done – I mean, we have our different points of view on different aspects, but I think we’ve managed to make an agreement where we take into consideration the different perspectives that we have and we’ve managed to increase the ambition level, basically.

I think it was a good proposal that the Commission put on the table. I think our agreement is even better. The Commission proposed, originally, to have a target of 36% then raised the target to 39%, in relation to REPowerEU, and we raised it another notch to 40%. Now these percentages might seem like a small deal, but actually, a 40% target will have the effect that we can cut gas emissions by 190 billion cubic metres annually. We can cut gas imports by that number. That equals three and a half times Nord Stream 1 capacity. So, three and a half times Nord Stream 1 capacity, less gas imports – this is the potential of this deal.

I think we have a good result here and I look forward to voting on Wednesday and to the further negotiations with the Council.

  Der Präsident. – Die Aussprache ist geschlossen.

Die Abstimmung findet am Mittwoch, 14. September 2022, statt.